[documentliberation-discuss] Re: [Libreoffice-qa] ODF compatibility tests

On 05/02/2014 04:46 PM, Michael Meeks wrote:
> Hi Jay,

Hi Michael,

First - I enjoyed your FOSDEM 2011 and osC14 talks (especially the 
german two sausage ends joke) and look forward to seeing more. :)

>         First - thanks for your work helping to test LibreOffice ! =) that's
> always appreciated. Of course, its -most- appreciated when the results
> of your work are easiest to fix - ie. as of now, testing 4.3 is rather
> more useful than 4.2. Nevertheless - it's some great work.

Your welcome and it has been fun. :) My tests now do include testing 
master (4.3).

> On Fri, 2014-05-02 at 16:21 +0400, Jay Philips wrote:
> > Alternatively, is there an ODF test to validate if a ODF file
> > outputted by an ODF compatible software complies to the ODF standard and
> > can output the file as a pdf to show how it should be rendered, somewhat
> > similar to the Acid test for CSS.
>         ODF doesn't specify layout, so no there are no tests of that sort.
> Naturally we do our best to retain layout compatibility and there are a
> number of tweaks and compatibility options too tedious to enumerate to
> achieve that for LibreOffice.

Well ODF does specify page size, page orientation, image positioning on 
the page, etc. which ultimately is defining layout, but there has to be 
a means to know whether the output of software reading or writing ODF is 
correct, or else how would one detect that the display is correct or not.

> > Currently if a .doc, .docx or .rtf loads different between LibO and ms
> > word, i report these bugs, but if there are load differences for .odt
> > files its difficult to know if its a LibO or ms word problem.
>         Well - I'd blame MS Word of course :-) at least if you want to fairly
> reflect the concern that our layout of DOCX is different to that in MS
> Office (DOCX also does not specify precise layout).

I too blame MS word first, but if Calligra Words whose native format is 
ODF is showing it the same as MS word, where do i go from there. There 
was also problems opening Calligra Words files in LibO, which i have 
reported as bugs, but dont know whether i should blame Calligra or LibO.

>         Anyhow - thanks for your work ! hopefully it results in some good
> improvements over time.

Its been my pleasure. 43 bugs and counting, mainly just compatibility 
issues and a few crashes.Wish i could send in more enhancement 
suggestions, but i dont use office suits. :)

>         ATB,
>
>                 Michael.

Jay

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