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Hi Jay,

I had no time to watch the talk myself, but what I can say is: In the LibreOffice-project we lack time (like people workdays). I would appreciate someone deeper involved in the documentliberation project than me to present his/her opinion.... As far as I understood, there is no seperate bugtracker ATM (or even "products", but that may change). Having a shared bugzilla with LibreOffice would make a lot of sense (the filters as single products, which in fact they are). So yes, it is important to have the documents and the diffs (opening in LibO, no edit saved in LibO. [From the unzipped file, as docx, odt are zipped AFAIK]). Okay up until here I was neutral, and now something I hope does not sound impolite or even rude: If a bug is not in the database, it is not a bug [Like: "we cannot do anything against it"]. I also do fear, that your documents are not "minimal" test cases. Your iniative (and please do not take the following as rude) does not make a lot of sense yet. Do not understand me wrong, you present the status quo, but that won't change as much as it could. Furthermore it would be important to have a dev which actually does the change (e.g. I am working at this project [LibreOffice] in my spare time,as well as many developers do. Of course some get paid to fix something, but that is professional support). What i want to say here: It's not about looking at the docs, they have to be a small test document showing the error. If it is in the database a dev is needed, which wants to fix this problem. All in all this is a long, time consuming task. What I know of the QA department in the projects we lack man-hours, so none of us can take care of the documentliberation stuff as well [although we have the same goals and the same foundation AND the same bugs]. Of course everyone would be willing to assist you at the beginning, but in my opinion we can not be that end-user oriented just now

So thank you for reading that paragraph. Some small things: At the moment this mailinglist is a very low frequented one, so please do not unsubscribe. Your work IS appreciated, but it would be good if you could invest some hours a week/month. What I know is, that this is the only documentliberation-mailinglist yet, so you should be right here....

Again thanks for reading, looking forward to hearing your answer :)

Florian

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Am 19.04.2014 um 15:22 schrieb Jay Philips <philipz85@hotmail.com>:

I am doing extensive docx and doc conversion tests on libreoffice from files pulled from microsoft's website and posting the results to my twitter feed, and @libreoffice < https://twitter.com/libreoffice/status/457149501766397953 > asked that i send in the results to this mailing list.

So far i've done two tests and the results of them are available in these links as zip files. < https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6qJrVIa0SAlVkdpTGpsazlmdUE/edit?usp=sharing > < https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6qJrVIa0SAlMzVHZWo5WGo0RlU/edit?usp=sharing >

In the root folder of each zip file is the original .docx from microsoft's website, a .doc that was converted using the Microsoft Office Compatibility Pack (msocp), tweets.txt containing the tweets i made about the test, and pdf files named according to which .docx/.doc file that was used and which LibreOffice version was used to produce it. The zip file also has a 'LibO convert' folder that contains saved doc, rtf, docx, and odt files saved from the original .docx file in various LibreOffice versions, along with the pdf export of these after the file is reopened in LibreOffice. The saved doc, rtf, and docx files are also opened with msocp and the pdf export of the files are also found to compare against the LibreOffice produced pdf.

I also send in bug reports for a number of the bugs i find.
< https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?emailreporter1=1&list_id=415544&emailtype1=substring&query_format=advanced&email1=philipz85%40hotmail.com&product=LibreOffice >

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